Ämne: Råd om LLVP i fritidhus i Engelska

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[Avarage]

Verry helpfull for Schenk!!!

[Jästen]

Liksom 65 m2 , vad du nu menade med det.
Verkade ju som att han var nöjd redan med svaren annars iofs.

[Schenk]

Hej

I do not know what happen but I response to Avarage but I can´t find that and I did not receive an e-mail after the new answers.

@Avarage
So far we think to buy a Zibro SC1332 but we have not make a decision yet. We come to Sweden in May and then I want to buy one.
Thank you to aware me of the law.
About the warranty, do you mean that factory warranty stop when I install it by my self ?
I understand when I have a problem I need to fix it by my self and if I can not fix it I have to find someone who can fix it.
I look at Refrico and because you have one I have some questions and hopefully you have an answer.
What is the main difference between the on/off and the inverter ? I mean does the on/off have a thermostate to keep the temperature at 20° ?
Will they auto restart after power failure ?
The FLSC-09HRDN1QC2 cost 7043kr and you write 8803kr + installation. Do you mean that 8803kr is including installation so installation cost 1760kr ? Is that after ROT ? If so then I have to pay ±3520kr for installation because I don´t have ROT and that is 50%.

Mvh
Schenk

[Avarage]

About the warranty, do you mean that factory warranty stop when I install it by my self ?

Yes. But if you are lucky the dealer may not know that you have installed it yourself and maby they dont ask. In that case you might be abel to use the warranty anyway. ;-)

I understand when I have a problem I need to fix it by my self and if I can not fix it I have to find someone who can fix it. 

What I mean is that it might be more difficult to find anyone who want to you since they haven´t installed it for you. But you can be lucky with this as well as with the warranty if needed.

What is the main difference between the on/off and the inverter ? I mean does the on/off have a thermostate to keep the temperature at 20° ?
Will they auto restart after power failure ? 

Both types (OnOff & Inverter) have a temperature sensore used to measure and for regulating the temperature. So there will not be any major differense in the indoor temperature depending on which type you select.

Inverter is a thechnique for regulating a motor speed which makes it possible to set any rpm from 0 to maximum speed. And we are here talking about the compressor speed in the outdoor unit. While OnOff can´t set any other speed than 0 OR maximum speed.

This means that an OnOff pump only can deliver 0 watt OR maximum watt. The sensore are then used to switch the compressor on or off = the temperature variation indoor will be slighty bigger than with a inverter type of pump which can set ANY effect (watt) between 0 and maximum. Så if only 20% effect is required the inverter type set the speed to 20%.

Both type of pumps will restart automatically after power failiure. There´s no difference.

The FLSC-09HRDN1QC2 cost 7043kr and you write 8803kr + installation. Do you mean that 8803kr is including installation so installation cost 1760kr ? Is that after ROT ? If so then I have to pay ±3520kr for installation because I don´t have ROT and that is 50%.

Sorry, I was unclear.

In sweden you (I, everyone) have to pay tax. The tax for things such as a pump is 25%. And the prices on Refrico list is excluded this tax. If you have a swedisch company you do NOT pay this tax.

So 7043kr (excl tax) + 1760kr (25% tax) = 8803kr

I hope this helps you to understand what I ment!?

Regards!
// Niklas

[Schenk]

Thank you Niklas, everything is clear to me.
Don´t misunderstand me, I prefer and will search for an installer untill we come to Sweden but if the price is too high then I am going to do it by my self and take the risk of the warranty and the after-sale service.

Mvh
Nol

[Avarage]

Liksom 65 m2 , vad du nu menade med det.

Som svar på din kommentar "Q-Heat 630 = Mitsubischi FD 25 " men jag kanske missuppfattade den. Vad menade du?

Verkade ju som att han var nöjd redan med svaren annars iofs.

Och jag tyckte jag hade något mer att tillföra. men det kanske inte du ansåg?

[Jästen]

Som svar på din kommentar "Q-Heat 630 = Mitsubischi FD 25 " men jag kanske missuppfattade den. Vad menade du?

An option to an expensive Q-Heat 630 could be a smaller pump Ex. Mitsubischi FD 25.

Det är samma pump så FD25 är inte billigare. Var inte konstigare än så men för dig blev det 65 m2 av någon anledning. Du kanske inte gillar att göra/erkänna misstag?

[Avarage]

Det är samma pump så FD25 är inte billigare. Var inte konstigare än så men för dig blev det 65 m2 av någon anledning. Du kanske inte gillar att göra/erkänna misstag?

Jag visste inte att det var samma pump. Tack för informationen.
Prismässigt vet jag dock att mitt ex. som köpte en fd25 så sent som i november 2012 fick ett pris inkl. installation på 14 000kr. Är det samma idag men för den nyare pumpen?

Du svarade för övrigt inte på min andra fråga?

[Avarage]

Du svarade för övrigt inte på min andra fråga?

Snacka om 

[Jästen]

Tyckte iofs att det borde vara sluttomtat för i år, men OK då, får väl bjuda på en till så du blir nöjd.
Ska vi säga så?

[Schenk]

Hej

I have some other question about the Zibro. I doubt between the SC-1332 and the SC-3032.
The SC-3032 from Jula cost just a 1000kr more then the SC-1332 but have a higher heating COP and almost 50% more heating power. Both are DIY machines so I prefer the SC-3032
My questions are :
Does both heatingpumps use the Parker quick connection ?
Does both have pre-connected flex pipes instead of the copper pipes ? The SC version is in Holland only for sale with stainless steel flex pipes with Parker qc and the flex pipes are already connected to the indoor part.
And last but not least does anyone have an installation manual ?

My main worry is the pipes ! When the copper pipes coming through the wall I have to bend them 90° without nod them to fix them in the wall-vent and with flex pipes it should be easier and no worry that I nod the flex pipes

Mvh
Schenk